I am sorely tempted to press the button on a zotac 3090, 1460 ish GBP and is on a par with all the other AIB cards except it has a power limit and single bios. I figure I won’t need to overclock a 3090 anytime soon. It has the added advantage of using the reference PCB so much easier to get a waterblock for it and add it to the loop in the future.
It also has a 5 year warranty and a voucher for Cod Black ops or some such
Why not wait for another 4 to 6 weeks and save half the money? That‘s the money for a 4080 in two years, and it will most likely beat the 3090 with ease.
It’s at msrp instead of a 300 pound premium, also it has 2 x 8 pin sockets instead of 3 which suits me better
All I see is 1600€ for 35 fps in DCS VR (G2). Think I’ll pass on that. For the time beeing. 
I think there’s a good chance there will be a mid-year release of higher-RAM’d cards from nvidia in 2021.
Of course, there’s also the AMD models which have 16.
Yeah, it feels like, to me, wrapping my Yugo [engine] in an expensive Ferrari chassis. I’m hopeful that, someday in the near? future, DCS will get a tune up. OTW, this may be my last hurrah in flight sims. Who knows.
Windows recovery was a bust twice now. You silly machine!!!
My goodness. This whole GPU ‘phenomena’ is near incomprehensible. I thought, given my current hardware (PSU mostly), lets just throw a 1080Ti in there.
Brilliant I thought: it’s a decent bump (based on research) over my 1080; can get it with a bit more VRAM; should work fine with my PSU; stay, roughly, in balance with my CPU. But, nooooo…they still want a LOT of $ for that card. Didn’t dig deep yet, but, sheesh.
I’d say stay where u are. I still play racing Sims w my 1080. No problem.
A video I watched today but can’t locate at this time had DCS running @90 fps in a rift s with high settings on a 3090 and the Vram usage was o er 12 Gb which leads me to believe the extra 14 gb will be of benefit
Classic supply/demand problem. They stop making the previous gen when they start making the next gen. That means that while the older cards are in theory worth less, the lack of supply of the new ones means people decide to get a faster one of the previous gen instead.
So they can’t get a 3070 to replace their 1080Ti, maybe they’ll get a 2080Ti instead…but there is also lack of supply for 2080’s now out of production, keeping prices high until they’re sold through.
You can’t win. All you can do is wait until about 2 months before the new gen comes out and then buy previous gen at full price! At that point there usually isn’t a supply issue anyway.
I just saw the advert for the 3060 coming out. “It will crush the 2080 Super”.
So in short here is everyone’s business model:
“Buy our products, years from now you will be so pleased with our product you will have no choice but to buy from us again. Our products last and you feel good about that one you bought back in school. You want to give a new one to your grandkids now. You will buy more from us… just cos its so good”
Nvidia Business model:
“You still have last years model??? Look buddy, its been 10 months. TIME TO UPGRADE! The one from last year is pure unadulterated POO. You do not want to be seen with that 10 month old model. Its POO and yes, you paid top dollar for it because back in the day(10 months ago) it was the latest and greatest video card known to humanity. But now our new one Embarrasses it, Body Slams it. You want to hang out with that old POS… Go ahead. Or better yet, go buy AMD… Ok, how many new Nvidia cards do you want? One… You will have to wait till the next Gen is close to being out the door. See you in ten months with the same claim.” Way to go Nvidia.
What boggles my mind is how fast the TDP is rising now with every generation. Back with the GTX900 generation, 150 Watt was a mid to high end card (GTX970). Now even the mid level cards like the 3060 are at 200W. This is crazy. I understand that VR and 4k gaming upped the requirements in a big way, but come on…
Well, you want a bigger mousetrap, you need a bigger spring. This reminds me of how Americans complained when cars got smaller… The factories were trying to supply economical cars but people did not want them. So the companies made huge cars and they sold like hot cakes. Then people complained that the V8 car they drove only got 15 miles per gallon in 1995.
If you want to play with POWER, you going to pay for POWER.
A wise man once said, “Speed is tied to money. How much you spend will dictate how fast you go”.
Oh and by the way, I have not paid an electric bill in more than 15 years… so don’t listen to me LOL
Sounds like Audi. Only that it is two years there.
Or Apple. Where it is 12 months.
triggered
Man I hate that. I wanted a smaller, more economical car (I drive a 4m long hybrid and I really only drive to work with that car) and there are electric cars but most of them are idiotically powerful and huge. And expensive.
Finally found one that I like, but there is not much choice actually.
2 Likes
Looking at the Steam surveys, there are a lot of people with GTX 10xx and earlier cards still. They are the ones they’re targeting, really, not the 20xx owners.
Remember the 20xx owners all accepted the big price bumps from the 10xx and previous generations. Now after another generation of roughly the same price increases (where the 60 costs what the 70 used to, and so on) they are claiming there is a big leap in performance to justify it.
“Still on your 1080 because the 2080 was a lot more money (and you couldn’t bring yourself to step down to a 2070 although you won’t admit that was a reason)? Well here’s a 3060 that costs LESS than your 1080 did but blows away the more expensive 2080 Super you wanted but refused to pay for!”
^^^ This.
And yeah, it’s wild. Think I said something related recently, but: You aren’t purchasing a PC anymore, you’re buying a space heater in the guise of a video processor unit; which just so happens to have a storage disk and a few silicon chips for company; a plug for the internet; with a reinforced support structure so it doesn’t crush anything; delivered by two guys with a hand truck. Oh, and we recommend a dedicated circuit to power all that shiny goodness.
Feeding the herd. I have little choice if the software keeps the carrot dangling just out of reach. Been this way since MSFS #1, in 1982, ish. Or, Pong, circa 1972.
I’ve wondered over the years what happens when the tech reaches the point were no one can detect, visually at least, the difference anymore. See, that’s were old age is helpful - my eyes ain’t what they used to be
THAT, was good!
“Things to avoid…”
“…if any game still says Early Access by the time you get to it, it’s not worth trying…” - Oh, that hurt (glancing at my DCS icon) 
“…invest in a PC, the console wars are beneath you…” - Ha.
“…the most addictive game in the world is a low-resolution Lego simulator…” - Sums it up.
The Elite Dangerous dig was good too.
Nice one!