Official 11th Annual Mudspike Christmas Flight 2025 - Discussion and AAR Thread

Leg 3: EDRB (Bitburg) => LSGK (Gstaad-Saanen), MSFS2020, real-day, real-time, real-weather, Cessna 404 Titan, VFR:

Departure EDRB:

En-route, towards the Alps, trying to maintain VMC:

At LSGK, interesting approach:

Overhead the airport:

180 turn around the city of Gstaad:

Final RW26:

Parking at apron, where I already spotted my next aircraft in the hangar:

Visual Approach Chart and flown route for RW26:

Credits to: https://flightsim.to/file/61989/flugplatz-gstaad-saanen-lsgk-for-msfs

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Well done!

The Titan is one of my favourite aircraft in the MSFS 2024.

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I am so far behind in getting started with this year’s trek… I haven’t even decided what I want to fly this year. :thinking:

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Join the club. Hopefully I will be able to make a start next week.

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I’m in a goose

Parking brakes on for the start-up. lovely, simple mechanical parking brakes here.

Start-up completed. Pushback requested… uuuuhm sir I think that might be dangerous.


Alright welcome aboard, sir.


His pusback got me nowhere… so I did a little bit of grass taxiing again and got my boat up into the sky.


She is actually a bit of a nifty swifty, contrary to what I expected.


Plan for the day… Hold the heading towards Iberia, my last stop before landfall in Africa. I want to go to barcelona, and do a beach landing at the barcaloneta beach to be exact.


Everything fine and dandy. I learned to trust the trim: The ocean wind will blow the goose around in attitude but she finds her way to wings level again on her own.


All good in the back.


Land was never really that far away.


Land Ahoy!


I am pretty confident I am looking at cape de creus, With what is technically still France on its right and bay of roses on its left.


Getting ready to follow up the coast till I find barcalona.


Thought this might be a good time to switch tanks so I won’t be that asymmetric when it’s time to land


If this river is the Ter then I am good.


Maybe this is the place? argh… to bright


Found the place :slight_smile:


Coming back around.


Scary


Barceloneta later that night, view from the Paella restaurant.


went to the natural history museum to see an asteroid.


visited Sagrada Familia.


… and climbed it. Quite scary.

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Leg 4: LSGK (Gstaad-Saanen) => LFKB (Bastia-Poretta), MSFS2024, real-day, shifted-time, real-weather, Pilatus PC-12, VFR/IFR:

Departure LSGK:

En-route, over the Mediterranean see:

Great tailwind:

Approaching LFKB:

Below cloud base:

Final RW34:

Parking at apron:

Short holiday brake here at Corsica …

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The PC-12 is a great looking aircraft :+1: Is it the default one? How is it to fly - systems, flight model, avionics… all good? It is on my list to take it out of the hangar but as far as I recall, it did not get a very good welcome by the MSFS community due to many bugs (when released; now one year later I hope it has improved).

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It is indeed the default PC-12 in MSFS2024. I had fun flying it from A to B, on quite basic AP settings. Significant number of buttons and systems are NA / INOP, so if that is what you are looking for you might be disappointed. But the looks are good and I could fly it manually …

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My new office for the leg to Mostar.

Ladies (do we have any around here?) and gentlemen, the Cirrus Vision:

The flight deck is a bit… sterile? In comparison to some other aircraft that I fly in the sim it definitely is (think of the Learjet or DC-6). However, the switchology is pretty modern (=very simple) and the avionics straightforward. Looks like an easy flight ahead.

Sbohem! Do I see a Cairbou on the apron?

This was quite a scenic flight along the Croatian shore. Many moons ago, I spent my first real holiday on one of the beaches below… and then decided it was not for me as I’d rather go to the mountains :slight_smile:

One of the advantages of the modern avionics well implemented in the sim is that the charts can be displayed on the MFD. Nice touch. Mind, this is all stock MSFS 2024, no Navigraph.

Split. I remember I flew over this city on my way to Dubrovnik in the Christmas flight two years ago.

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Approaching the IAF for Mostar.

Initially I planned to fly a NDB approach to runway 33 just for fun. And then I found that the Cirrus Vision did not sport an ADF.

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It is probably too cool an aircraft to lend itself to such a vintage piece of equipment.

Anyway. I opted for an ILS instead and checked the chart (yes, on the MFD). The ILS is offset by some 30 degrees due to terrain.

Which, together with the wind, made for a nice approach.


The wind…
…I had to turn the real weather off for my visit to the next point of interest in Mostar because the bloody Jetson One top speed equalled the wind speed. And the wind was blowing in the direction FROM the city.

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Anyway, a few moments later I was admiring Stari most in Mostar, a 16th-century Ottoman bridge in the city of Mostar in Bosnia and Herzegovina which crosses the river Neretva and connects the two parts of the city, which is named after the bridge keepers (mostari) who guarded the Old Bridge during the Ottoman era.

During the Croat–Bosniak War, the Army of the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina used the bridge as a military supply line, leading the Croatian Defence Council to shell and destroy it on 9 November 1993. Subsequently, the bridge was reconstructed, and it reopened on 23 July 2004.

Source: Wiki

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Leg 5

KPIM to KWRB

I wasn’t actually planning on this leg, but it fit with the time I had handy.

31 minutes to go 66 nm, gives us an average speed of 120 knots roughly. I was actually doing a good bit faster for a good chunk of it, setting up my approach to the wrong airport added some time there.

Once again I took up the Aeroplane Heaven F3F-2, if you ignore the base level engine modeling and the few bugs, it really is fun to fly.

Here we are lined up ready to take off, bascially right where we left off, still in Lady Lex’s colors. The second USS Lexington (CV-16) is a museum ship in Corpus and a great trip if you’re ever down that way.

The Butterfly Center in the background is neat, I recommend checking it out in something hover capable.

Aren’t bi-planes cool?

Setting up for final

Let’s see if any one can spot the issue here:

If you said, “you’re landing at the wrong airport” you would be correct! The VOR need is helpfully telling me I am at Middle Georgia Regional, though you’d think my eyeball would have told me that wasn’t a 12k foot long runway.
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Well with that sorted, lets keep going east a bit, and fly over the Musuem of Aviation. Definitely need to go check that out in real life.


And down, I don’t know if I just suck at taxi’ing in MSFS, or if the tail draggers have issues. Either way I didn’t hit any edge lights, I think.

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What an incredibly cute, round little plane!

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That bridge is amazing, I’ve heard it is considered a reminder of the historical unity and a symbol of the new peace between the Croat and Bosnian parts of the city.

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Isn’t it! It has grown on me, as it’s part of that transitional time in aviation that is really interesting to me. For anyone interested in the F3F, I can recommend this is you have an extra 30 minutes in your day.

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It’s time for Africa.


Getting her spooled off. She’s as beautiful as the day I lost her somewhere in Marseille when I traded her in for that goose.

Just a long trek over the water today.


Cruising altitude she settled on today. Nothing but Blue all around.


Land ahoy.


TOD by pure guesswork.


I have made it too… Carthage!

Made it :slight_smile:

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Leg 6

KWRB to KSVN

I debated on what to fly on this one, as it could very easily be IFH (I follow highways) right down I-16, but I decided to get above the clouds and do a little radio navigation.

1:10 minutes to fly 130nm to roughly 110 knots.

Well be taking the Staggerwing out today! Man it’s a good looking plane.


Very dreary down here, time to get into the sunlight.

Much better!

Soon enough it’s time to descend into Savanah. Honestly I probably could have waited a bit longer, but with only a CDI and no DME, I figured earlier was better than later. (Yes I know stopwatch, distance, math, blah, blah, blah)

Not repeating my mistake of my last leg, Hunter AAF is dead ahead. I was not seduced by the flashing lights of Hilton Head International.

On a long slow final…

Because I can’t see anything with the glare! I’ll give MS credit, with varying the lighting levels based on looking into or away from the light is neat, but it was basically blackout in the cockpit.

Down safely.

Next up is the first big jump across water, what to fly, what to fly…?

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nice progress there boys !

as this kind of started as vintage flight , I think I will be here in good company :slight_smile:

still on the ’ Lear World Tour ’ but as the Lear35a from FSW is too much FPS hungry I switched to other frames .

new AFS4 addition , very cool one ! cold 'n dark capable ! livery is one of the ’ Me 262 Project ’ - Wikipedia

leaving Minatitlán, Veracruz

Nezahualcóyotl ( Malpaso ) Dam

did I see a canyon there !?

really nice scenery

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For the flight to Athens at 424 nm, I needed something with longer legs.

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Not this one :point_up_2:, this one :point_down::

The departure called for getting over the hill on the horizon.

Which is, of course, an easy job for the Learjet :slight_smile:

Last glimpse of Mostar and en-route we go.

I do like the Learjet 35 in MSFS. It has enough bells and whistles to keep me busy during the flight, the cockpit is nicely cluttered with a number of round gauges, and what is not to like about the speed :slight_smile:

Just cruising…

Btw. at FL410 you can already see the curvature of the Earth. All flat earthers are welcome on board!

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Descending towards Athens. To be honest, on this flight I punched the flight plan to the GPS and then just let the autopilot do the navigation. In one of the accounts by a Learjet pilot, the author mentioned that the idea was to get as high as possible, stay there as long as possible while flying as fast as possible… and then for descend just retard the throttles and descend as fast as possible.

I am still trying to master this technique… and I suck at it.

Athens!

The last bit of the approach and landing I flew hands on, of course :slight_smile:

On the apron thinking what to fly to visit the next point of interest…


…which turned out to be an autogyro or gyrocopter.

Sort of clear what is the subject of my tourist-ing today…

The Acropolis of Athens is an ancient citadel located on a rocky outcrop above the city of Athens, Greece, and contains the remains of several ancient buildings of great architectural and historical significance, the most famous being the Parthenon. [wiki]

Really nicely modelled in MSFS!

It took a few attempts to land this thing on the spot I wanted but all good in the end.

It is actually fun to fly and after a while you get a hang of it and can land on a tiny spot. Give it a try!

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Amazing scenery!

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Leg 3: St. John’s International Airport, St. John’s, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada (CYYT) TO Base Aérea das Lajes, Angra do Heroísmo, Terceira Island, Azores, Portugal (LPLA).

Leg 3. If you’ve been following along, you already know where I’m trying to get to and the obstacles I’ve been having getting there!

If you haven’t, then you probably don’t care anyway! :crazy_face:

So, here’s the leg. 1238NM as the crow flies:

Here’s the chart that I’m going to use to see if I’m just blowing gas out the tail for some reason.

And here’s my mount, by FSCabral.

In the end, or at least the end of the beginning, it appeared that I had solved my problem before I even got started.

Now that I knew where to find the gas gauges in the 72…and actually checked them before pushback :roll_eyes:… I noted something strange. The amount loaded in the weight and balance screen in MSFS and the actual fuel loaded according to the fuel gauges was not the same.

Unfortunately, I didn’t take a “before” screenshot, but these gauges, which are now showing full, were showing considerably less when I first loaded the jet.

In my defense, and filed under the old adage that “it’s impossible to build anything that is foolproof…as fools are so ingenious”, I had loaded and cross checked the fuel state by reference to the retro, pseudo EFB thingy™.

But, in a fit of generous thoroughness, FSS had gone through the trouble of integrating both GSX and real time fuel loading into the 72…neither feature being one I ever use.

So, adjusting the FUEL tab sliders isn’t so much “setting” the fuel as it is “requesting” the fuel. Which you must choose to load yourself.

And of course, having assumed that the fuel sliders worked exactly the same as those in MSFS, I didn’t check the fuel gauges. Because, when are they ever NOT reflective of your actual fuel state…

…um, other than now. Yeah, when except for now? :laughing:

So, with this mystery finally solved, it looked like the rest of this trip would be anticlimactic.

Spoiler: It would not be anticlimactic!

With that dragon slain, off we went into an early morning haze that felt more like the last of summer than the beginning of fall.

Lovely morning with reports of good weather over the Atlantic.

The auto EPR bugs did a fairly serviceable job of matching the charts with a low altitude fuel flow of a little under 6000lbs/hr/engine, which didn’t seem exceptionally high.

But, it’s been a long time since I flew a turbojet, so what do I know? :man_shrugging:

Following the whole fuel folderal, I forgot to note that this would also be my first long range test of the CIVA INS. FSS says they put drift in the sim, so it’ll be interesting to see how much it drifts by the time I get there.

Climbing through the teens, I looked back to see what the gas gauges said: still full wings and over 29,000lbs in the center.

I think I’ve solved my previous range problem.

Turns out, it was the nut behind the yoke that was the cause all along! :innocent:

In due time, I had managed to couple up the autopilot, get the INS direct leg into the CIVA, and throttle back to a very comfortable 2800lbs/hr/engine with 46,000lbs of fuel on board.

Great day to be flying! What could possibly go wrong?

Turns out…quite a lot.

I had just done my 90 min out fuel check and everything was looking good.

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Yes, mostly.

See if you can see what I didn’t at the time.

It’s not a very fair question as most of the panel is hidden. I didn’t catch it either until I went back to the captain’s seat.

Do you see it now?

The first thing that caught my attention was the big amber light that was illuminated on the panel, LOW OIL PRESSURE OR FILTER BYPASS on number 1.

And my next thought was, “How the Hell do I have a low oil pressure light…I don’t even think that I have failures enabled in the sim!”

But, you see, the one thing that can give you a low oil pressure light in a sim where you don’t have failures enabled is when the engine is off.

Now, I know what you are thinking. “How the Hell do you have an engine off if you don’t even have failures enabled in the sim?”

And, at the time, I didn’t have an answer to either of those questions…but I was kind of busy at that moment. :wink:

Given that I only learned where the gas gauges were on my last flight, I think it’s fair to guess that I most certainly did NOT have the engine failure procedures for the 727 memorized.

So I made them up!

-Engines 2 and 3 to Max Continuous Thrust

-Descend to Max Driftdown Altitude (which I didn’t have so I also made up!)

Now, on to a relight.

Again, I really didn’t know why the engine had failed. The oil pressure was the first thing I saw. But of course, it was the only thing with a light in the front cockpit, so that was no surprise. I had full oil quantity, so I didn’t run out of oil. I had N1, but no N2. N2 bearing seizure of some sort? What kind of compressor/turbine setup did the JT8D even have? No idea.

Well, I figured that there was nothing to lose by trying. So I tried. But the engine resolutely failed to relight. Of course, I was making up procedures as I went along. So again, that was no surprise either.

At this point, I was VERY tempted to try old CTRL E to see what would happen. But, on a certain level, I kind of felt that this would be cheating. Not to mention potentially dangerous. Turning over something like engine starting to the AI is a bit like opening a box of chocolates…

So, that didn’t exactly seem like a great idea.

Plus, by this point, I was only about an hour out from Lajes with two good engines. And plenty of gas left.

I decided to continue.

Have you ever noticed that, sometimes, fate seems determined to teach you a lesson, and just won’t take “no” for an answer?

Well, I was about to have some very interesting lessons taught to me; all of a sudden like.

Below, just for reference as I didn’t take a good screenshot at the time, is the fuel panel. Naturally, with an engine failure you might expect it to be necessary to balance the fuel somewhat.

Sadly, my automated FE wasn’t doing a great job of it at the time. So, I decided (cue ominous music) to do it myself.

At first glance, the panel seemed to be straightforward(ish). Engine fuel shutoff switches, boost pumps, crossfeed valves, etc.

But the moment I closed the center crossfeed valve and shut off the right side boost pumps, the Number 3 engine failed almost immediately!

I’m not sure that I buy that shutting any crossfeed should starve the engine. After all, each engine still has its own tank to feed it.

But there it was…now I was down to one…

I was honestly not sure how the 72 would do on one engine. But, at that point, everything had been going along so swimmingly that I decided that I could do no worse than to try CTRL E, simulating an inflight air start attempt, done properly this time.

And everything restarted!!!

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So, that was a thing.

Well, I can’t tell you how much I just wanted for this flight to go on and on and on.

But, darn the luck, I finally reached the Azores.

From there things went smoothly enough, what with three engines and all.

A quick entry into the downwind at Lajes and I was in the pipeline five by five.

Hopefully, with a better outcome! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

In the end, and despite all probability, we brought her in…mostly in one piece.

So, what did we learn?

This flight had started out as a fuel experiment (remember that?) And that problem seems to have been solved once I figured out the interface.

The engine failures, I’m less sure about.

Unless I misunderstand the plumbing of the 72 (a distinct possibility), I’m not certain why the second engine failed. Equally odd, I seem to remember accidentally clicking on the left crossfeed valve at some point right before the first engine failed as well.

So, it feels as though, what I’m taking to be the crossfeed valves, are acting like shutoff valves.

Which bears more investigating.

At least now I know that I can restart it should my fat fingering give a new meaning to the term, “Whisper Jet”!!! :rofl:

Holy crap this was a long one!

Well, I’m learning. So maybe these will shorten as time goes on.

Although, given my history…

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I have to say that you are making it very hard for me to resist buying the 72.

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