Pimax Crystal VR headset

I have started a penny jar towards a dream air. Same OLED screens but a much smaller and lighter headset.

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how about Bigscreen Beyond 2 ? how is it positioned in comparison to pimax ?

Just to play devil’s advocate, my new primary VR headset is my old Quest 3. I got tired of fighting the Crystal Super and by the time I had reduced the resolution and FOV to get a decently smooth experience, I might as well just use the Q3. I will give the Super another try in a few months, but I definitely have a degree of buyer’s remorse.

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If you get foveated rendering going, it should be sweet as all that.

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I am simping for a Micro-OLED Crystal Super for my next headset. Unfortunately, I will most likely have to settle for a Crystal Light. Still, it will be an improvement over my G2.

As an aside, my future build is on hold for a while due to the surging cost of memory. :open_mouth:

Maybe @PaulRix is encountering what we all did in the 2010’s. Remember how we all struggled to get IL2 and MSFS to look good at 1080… Then the goal posts moved and you were mud unless you were playing at 2K… I see the specs on the Super and I am like… ā€œCan I run it? Will I need a Nuclear Generator to run my PC?ā€ I dont have a lot of complaints with my OG Crystal but its not perfect. Maybe Quest is moving in the right direction? I have Zero experience with that product.

Since my Varjo Aero is no longer supported it’s just a matter of time before I need a new headset. The Pimax reputation has me leary. Of course Varjo fooled me…once. So the Quest 3 has moved up on the list. Even if it doesn’t have the super-duper resolution it’s good enough, cheap enough - and I’m more comfortable with build quality and future support.

On that note:

A year ago this guy expressed my concerns about Pimax. Seems things may be better?

Shoot, my G2 is still functional (just not very comfortable) I’m sure, assuming the software will allow it to work (think there’s a ā€˜thing’ that solves this?)

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For using a G2:

  • Windows 11: Oasis, Nvidia only
  • Linux: Install Envision, select Monado. Works with both Nvidia and AMD cards

EDIT: Windows 10 ā€œjust worksā€ with WMR Portal obviously, but shouldn’t be used unless you have older hardware and are paying for extended security updates

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I guess you’re using dynamic foveated rendering, i.e. with eye tracking?

I’ve been trying this with the Aero and I have some mixed results. In short, it used to work much better, as far as I can recall…
But now I have a completely different PC and I’m not GPU bound and DFR taxes the CPU in order to offload the GPU, so maybe that’s why the experience isn’t as I remember it..?
When I have Use Quad Views and Use Eye Tracking on in DCS, it looks like it doesn’t just affect the resolution, but also the scenery detail. When I move the view, objects pop in and out depending on where I look and this is rather annoying.

Do you have a similar experience in your Pimax and could you write a little essay about your settings? :slight_smile:

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I have a Crystal Light, so there is no eye tracking on mine. I use Fixed Foveated rendering.

In DCS it’s simple, just click the quadviews button and leave the eye tracking one unticked.

In the Pimax thinger there’s a few more tweaks to make.

This makes the outer bit look very pixelated, but as long as you don’t look for it but sort of look with your head, it remains sharp as a tack. In the latest versions of the pimax software the border between the sharp inner window and pixely outer one is almost invisible.

One of the things this gives is that it actually helps spotting things through peripheral vision because dots are huge, so you will know something is there, focus on it and it becomes harder to see, but you can distinguish far better what aspect, type, etc it is you’re looking at.

I have experimented with turning it off, but I see a small gain in frametime from the way I run it. That and the peripheral dots thing makes it a done deal for me.

I would love to have it track my eyes, even if that takes up a couple cpu cycles tracking them. Probably make up for it by having the sharp bit be smaller.

Forrest Gump GIF by GrayDuckDent

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Thanks!
Nice of Pimax to have such detailed settings, I must say…
Happy with the Crystal Light and Pimax in general?

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Well..

I like the software and the hardware works. The specs are awesome, beautiful optics and screens. Lately, tracking has been great, actually better than my G2 used to.

I have one dead pixel in the left screen, but I don’t feel like fighting customer service for it.

I have a feeling the G2 has more stereo overlap than the crystal light. While the G2 was focused very far, making far away stuff feel far away, the pimax focuses it’s screen at about 2m, maybe even less. The upside of that is that I don’t need no glasses or lens inserts like I did in the G2.

So, I feel the G2 did sense of scale better, but the Pimax has far better screens, optics and tracking.

Yeah I feel like it’s an upgrade. But something was lost in the upgrade :wink:

On a final note, I really disliked the way Pimax did marketing, but lately they have become a little less agressive with the influencer bullshit, so yeah. A good product sells itself, and imo an abundance of marketing implies the seller does not trust the product to do so.

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Giving advice on VR is almost impossible, I know. What works for one may not work at all for another. And VR is always a compromise…
I considered Pimax before I decided on the Varjo Aero, but thought Varjo was a safer bet. There is a reason why I never gamble with money. :wink:

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Ugh. I am now up to maybe?

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HOLD ON! The Quest 3 is ONLY 500 bucks? How is that even possible? How good is thing thing? Im tempted to buy one…

I’m at definitely maybe…

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I am wondering who owns both, the Crystal and the Quest 3? Im looking at you @PaulRix lol. And if so, witch one is more comfortable? Are the visuals on the Quest that much behind the Crystal? Do you think the Quest is a better product?
I have the OG Crystal and It is feeling rather old for something that is barely 2ish years old. Its big, heavy and not comfortable. So I want options since the new Crystal is very expensive. Its visuals are undeniable. It looks amazing. But its just not too comfy. Whatever I get, I want it to last for a couple of years without trouble.

Hmmmm well, right now my daily driver is my Quest 3 while the Crystal Super is sat on the shelf. I’m just getting a better(smoother) experience with it.

That doesn’t mean I have completely given up on the Super, but I’m done with constantly tweaking settings for awhile.

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Good to hear. When my Aero stops working, well, I need something and the Quest 3 has my interest. It is inside-out tracking correct (no base-stations required)?

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I absolutely love my Quest 3 (not the S). I got it off FB Marketplace. The lens clarity is phenomenal (I’ve owned the Rift CV, Odyssey, Reverb G1 and G2). It is the first headset I’ve owned where I can put it on..and the passthrough is good enough to work on my computer while I’m setting up a VR session. The software for it is very good..the floating overlays in ā€œmixed realityā€ just really work..and with DCS (using Virtual Desktop)..I’m very much in VR heaven. I can’t comment on the 3S…I heard they have inferior lenses to the 3. I got the 128GB version because I wasn’t too interested in playing native games..although having a mixed reality pool table in my living room was damn near one of the coolest VR things I’ve ever seen.

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