As long as it has TOWs, this is the best answer. Bonus points for a second engine.
They fulfill that inner fantasyā¦LOLā¦
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Reminder guys - no discussion of other site policies or stuff here. We are like Tombstone, AZ - ācheck your guns at the doorāā¦errrā¦wellā¦no need to remind us of how that turned outā¦
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Well maybe we could get a Mig-27? It would be nice to have a dedicated strike aircraft on Redfor.
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I mean a MiG-27 is essentially an Su-25T with fewer weapons and moreā¦ speedā¦
never mind, carry on.
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Laser Guided Bombs
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Not to mention MiG-27K, I want to see the HUD crack because of the recoil from the GSh-30-6. Not to mention there are over a thousand Flogger D/Jās versus only a handful of frogfoot-Tās.
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Now that is a real dream. The 27K would be a dream come true. We WISH!
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JA-37C/D/Di still desperately wanted from meā¦ 
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I think the MiG-27 is more a faster Su-25 than a 25T. It has a slightly better chance of surviving a high threat zone, but thatās about it.
They made a bewildering array of Floggers, though. I still am fuzzy on just what the 23BN was used for vs the 27.
I would like an A2A Flogger, though. A good match for the M2K.
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Iād disagree. The -27s all used TV systems of some sort. The -27K (if not the previous ones) had Shkval, and the ability to use every weapon the -25T could (if the 25T ever progressed past prototype)
The -23B and -27 are all a part of the same family. The B was meant to be a ground attack aircraft, had a laser range finder, and the same engine as the Su-17 and Su-24. The BN substituted the AL-21 for a R29B-300 from the MiG-23MS due to shortages, as well as a new wing. This was used in low numbers in Soviet service (as was the B), and is considered a transitional aircraft towards the MiG-23BM, later renamed MiG-27.
The BN was essentially a poor manās -27, and was exported widely to the Pact, Africa, and the Middle East. Very few Soviet VVS units used them, and all were quickly replaced with the -27.
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Wait, wasnāt the 23 an Air to Air toy and the 27 the Air to Mud toy?
Generally yes. The exception is, as I mentioned, the -23Bs. Which had their radars removed and replaced with air to ground targeting electronics, initially a laser range finder, than a TV/laser combo.
The -27, as I mentioned was originally the MiG-23BM. The Soviets evidentially thought this was too confusing, figured the change was enough to warrant a name change, and started calling them the -27.
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Hah NEEERDD!
(Please tell me more) 
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Ah neat, didnāt know it was named like that.
Considering the MiG-27 predated the Su-25T by over a decade, I would imagine it wouldnāt be close in capability at all. However, unlike the Ka-50 and Su-25T, it actually entered service in meaningful numbers, making it more valuable from that standpoint.
I never paid much attention to the 27, though, so Iāve no idea how much it was updated past its 70s beginnings, which were pretty much where my interest in it stopped.
Given how little time I feel l have in the 25T setting up a shot with the Shkval, though, I would imagine it would be even less effective in the far faster 27. Itās hardly useful to go from max range for TV lock to inside the threat envelope of the target before you can lock and fire your weapon at it. I would fly that 25T at flaps-down speeds sometimes to give me time to lock it on the target (and not the nearest building or bush which for some reason it always likes more) and a 27 would fall out of the sky at that speed.
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The MiG-27 suffered from the bad reputation of the MiG-23, but was in fact an excellent light strike aircraft for its time even by western standards. The ultimate MiG-27K had a good avionics suite with a full HUD, an internal TV sight that could laser designate forwards and downwards for both missiles and laser guided bombs, ELINT pods to employ anti-radar missiles and an internal jammer. And it had a big-ass 30mm gatling gun. Its major problem was reliability due to the complexity of its system. It had systems on par or superior to the Su-25T, vastly superior performance, came over a decade earlier and was actually in service in large numbers instead of being a prototype.
As mentioned earlier the MiG-23BN is an early version of the Attack-Flogger family. An easy way to tell apart the MiG-23BN and MiG-27 are the air intakes. The MiG-23BN still has the mach 2 splitter-plate air intakes of the Fighter-Floggers. The MiG-27 got simple fixed air intakes, as it became clear it would spend its time at low level where high mach speeds are not attainable.
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But what does the Su-25T have that the Su-17M and the MiG27 donāt? Theyāve all got similar EO/laser systems (Iād argue the -25Tās systems were taken directly from one or the other), all use the same unguided rocket/bomb mix supplemented by AS-10 and AS-14 missiles. The only real novelty of the -25T was the Vikhr.
Considering similar systems were used on the Su-17, MiG-27, and Su-24, the VVS didnāt seem to share your concerns.
Just a tiny correction from my side. The Su-17M and the MiG-27/D/M did not have an EO-sight. They were equipped with nose-mounted laser range finders/designators like those found on the Su-25. Only the MiG-27K received the sophisticated EO-sight. The TV screen in the Su-17M-4 was used to display the imagery from the Kh-29T TV-guided missile.
MiG-27K
MiG-27D or M
Su-17M
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