@anon51893362 … I just found this out today from this article …
… 3900X seems to play well with 2 x 16GB of RAM with a RAM Command Rate of 1T!
I set mine to 1T and did some Prime95 testing (heavy on RAM etc) and so far so good! I’m pretty stoked because it’s been probably decades since I’ve been able to set my RAM to 1T. 
Try it!
Interesting. I’ll keep that in mind. 2-5% increase of performance…
Anyone want to check my sanity before I plunk down money?
https://www.newegg.com/clx-tgmsetrth9615bm/p/3D5-000B-000H4?Item=3D5-000B-000H4
Expensive…very expensive. Why not build the system yourself?
because the difference in component prices for me to do it and built prices is negligible these days. I also put a premium on not touching liquid cooled myself
Just to double check myself, cpu, mb and gpu alone come to @ $2700 before I add in any other required parts, if there is savings to be had on the same components by doing it myself it’s very minor, possibly none actually, plus then I’m assuming all the risk slapping together expensive pieces myself.
It’s Windows 10 Home, so you get no control over updates, if that matters to you.
The NVME is large but I prefer games to be off the boot drive, so a second NVME would be a good idea (can be added later, if motherboard allows).
Loading games off a hard disk is not ideal for flight sims.
I can’t comment on parts, but I would priceshop using different stores such as https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/
Although when I did that, I decided to build my own system. heh.
I also would not put down big bucks for a 20 series gfx card, with the 30s only a few weeks away.
Sanity check? Insane system bro!!!
I’d say wait for the 3000 series, but it sounds like you don’t want to build your own system. Probably going to be a while for they start hitting the prebuilt market. Also going to pay a premium for the “founders” edition or whatever they decide to call it. 2080 Ti will more than suffice for a long while.
Yeah, always an extra premium for the founders editions, plus seems the old axiom of waiting for the new thing so the price drops on the old stuff doesn’t seem to hold true as much as it use to. Plus I’ve been waiting around to upgrade, I wait another 6 months and then something else will be 6 months out.
Sometimes you just have to crap or get off the pot.
I was originally going for the new intel ones, but checking the benchmarks the AMD seems to perform way better for the price, plus the system I wanted was all out of stock, probably a good thing.
Still haven’t decided fully, but yeah, will soon.
I understand, the S or Ti+ or whatever will be the next big thing.
Gaming benchmarks for CPUs can be deceiving. It really depends on what resolution you plan on running. If its 4k, it wont matter, the performance becomes solely about the GPU. If you are gaming on 1080p, I would argue you don’t need the 2080TI anyway. So given that you’ve chosen the 2080ti I’m assuming you’re planning on 4k and VR, so you would see very little difference between an 3900x, 10999999k, or a 9600k.
Yeah, 4k ultrawide etc, I use benchmark scores mostly as a value assessment. Price vs score. So I’m not spending a lot more for minimal upgrades etc.
Even though performance now between the CPU 's might not be too noticeable. I do try to prepare the best I can for the future.
Mudcat, hold off on getting that 3900X cpu. I really like mine but the guy who sold it to me said MSFS2020 would be heavily multithreaded. Initial observation of FS2020 with SMT (simultaneous multithreading on – all 24 threads) isn’t good. I actually have never used SMT for gaming as I find games use the 12 cores alone way more efficiently. SMT might be cool for multimedia applications like movie making and stuff but not good for gaming. I think I’d prefer a 10 core intel chip that you could overclock to 5GHz instead.
Anyway, let me do a little more experimentation with SMT off and I’ll let you know how it goes. MSFS2020 is blowing my mind dude. … 1080Ti running at 4K and I’m getting 30 fps over Sedona with graphics set to Ultra. TrackIR and all my different controllers are just working! 
EDIT: Yup, just running 12 cores with no SMT works more efficiently with a few more fps to boot. Remember, overclocking Ryzen cpus is hard … I haven’t yet figured it out so you’ll only be getting 4.2 - 4.3 GHz across the board with only occasional turbo boosts on a few cores to 4.6.
I can’t believe I just booted up MSFS2020 for the first time and without any graphic optimization (Ultra) or controller configuration, it just worked LOL. 30 fps over Toronto City Center and my VRAM is only sitting at around 80%. Unprecedented. Now the fun begins!
It’s crazy how GPU Usage is constantly at 99% though, even in the User Interface.
ah yes, so you’re saying not much has changed since the last time I had AMD and had 6 cores when intel had 2 but no software took advantage of more than 1…
Aw jeez, you’re getting down to brass tacks here @Mudcat. All I’m saying is forget about Hyper Threading or Simultaneous Multithreading or whatever they call it. That crap is good for workstation tasks but not good for gaming. Go for more cores and higher GHz or a balance between the two. I wouldn’t be mad if you got the 3900X. 
Or how about 4k games uses 9gb of VRAM and only the Ti has more than 8…
Note that there is often a limiter in there, so if you see your 8GB card is using 7.5GB, that doesn’t mean it will only ever use 7.5GB. It may mean it leaves a dynamic buffer there, and if you had more it would use more, but since you don’t it will keep it under 8GB.
A few games like R6 Siege actually show you how much VRAM your settings will need, so you can balance the various options to keep it inside your card’s max, but I don’t think R6 will use more than 8 anyway. However, even with the new Vulkan renderer the game is still like 5 years old now.
Also, don‘t compare memory usage to a bucket being half full or full. Compare it to Tetris instead. Now you know why there is always a bit of wasted space and why there needs to be a bit of slack to move things around.
There you go, no need for a CS degree anymore to understand virtual memory management.
@Mudcat, interesting new rumor …
The 3090 could boast a performance improvement of 50% over the 2080 Ti.