VPForce Rhino FFB Review

I got the email yesterday… but I decided to step out of line. I hope that helps @dachsdk :wink:

I might look at it again in the future.

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Ah, so thats why it went from 8 to 7 Rhinos to go.
Yeah, I wasnt really convinced I would go through with it either, seeing I have plenty of things on the house I could/should spend the money on. But, after doing some very creative man-math, I hit the buy button anyway.
Fingers crossed Santa will find the time to drop it off before the holidays :santa:

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My Rhino is still going strong. Not even a hiccup. Great piece of gear. Take a look at the 3D printed throw limiter they link to. You’ll probably want to print one, depending on the dimensions of your simpit and if you plan to use an extension.

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So, I got this heavy cardboard box in the mail, a couple of days ago :plate_with_cutlery: :yum:
I must admit I was a bit leery of the plywood (or is it?) cabinet and general finish of the stick, from the pictures of early units I’ve seen. However it turned out to be very well put together, and the general finish is on par with Virpil I’d say. (Edit! That being said, I haven’t taken it apart, and I believe the gimbals are 3D printed?)
Setup went without a hitch, and although there is a lot of settings, I got it running reasonable well within an hour or so of tinkering. The Discord has lots of good advice, and the manual is well written, though still being a wip.
How is it in flight then. To sum it up… Wow!
It’s like getting a cheat code to the Huey! I don’t know how else to put it, it’s that good.
After tweaking the Damper, Inertia and Balance settings, I now have the stick feeling pretty much like the RL Seahawk cyclic, with a good amount of dampened hydraulic resistance. It really feels like you’re manipulating hydraulic controls. And the trim just works out of the box, no tweaking neccesary there.
It’s quite expensive, but if it lasts as long as the feel and build of it suggests, I dont think I’ll need a new stick base for a long time.
And now to dust off the old 3D printer, I need a cover for that belt.

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Congrats! I am just a little bit jealous. Having said that, I don’t have a setup that is really suitable for a floor mounted stick, so there is that. It does look awesome though.

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And now there are two.

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I’m not going to even watch that as I will only end up regretting passing on making the purchase a few months ago.

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I got to about the 4min 30 sec mark where it said €899.00 plus shipping… As much as I would like one, not much point in me watching beyond that.

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Love mine. Still going strong.

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Same!

Sounds cool. The more goodies in the flight sim world the better. Would come in handy with the Apache for me for sure (trim thingy where the stick remains in place).

But…that price though.

When I mounted a cheap transducer below my joystick platform, on my haptic feedback system, I could feel vibration there (no force of course).

Eventually removed it as I was getting all the stall/G/Gun/Bomb/Landing/Speed brake feedback from my ‘body’, via my office chair. For ~$200 (not counting the chair).

In VR it is an especially helpful thing (I know when I’m nearing stall by feel for instance).

Still wish ED would send these signals directly. Can’t be that complicated.

Now, having both systems…ah, simulated bliss!

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Can confirm :wink:
Flying helos took on a whole new dimension after getting the Rhino. And with the transducer under my seat it’s pretty close to perfect.

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@SierraAlphaMike and @dachsdk
Do you still require a program to configure the buttons and hats (eg I use Joystick Gremlin for warthog) or does the Rhino software take care of that? If the latter, are there shift states/modes etc.

Very interested in going the DIY kit route once I sell my spare controllers (under advisement/instruction).

Thanks, John

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I can’t speak for if you go DIY, but in my case, it reads whatever stick I have plugged in as a series of joystick buttons. So far, I’ve only used Thrustmaster, VKB or Virpil sticks. They all show up configured, and inside the Rhino software you can select which stick so that the mapping is correctly laid out (POV hats in the right order, etc).

As far as I know, there is no way to program specific keybinds or shift states within the Rhino software. I normally bind them within whatever simulator I’m playing.

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Neither can I, because my DIY project isn’t finished (no, I don’t always abandon my projects, they are fashionably late, that’s all!) yet.
But from what I gather, the DIY kits use the same electronics and software, as the finished ones, so it should be the same…

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It worked out of the box with the Warthog handle, so outside of tuning the FFB, I havent looked further into what the Rhino software can do, regarding button and axis setup.
I just configure it in the sim.
Have you joined the VPforce Discord ? There is a lot of knowledge in there.

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Thank you for the replies, greatly appreciated.

Read the Moza thread, and thought to give a little Rhino update. Though, not all that much to say really, no problems, it just works.
The effects program, TelemFFB is shaping up nicely too, now sporting a graphic UI with sliders for effects, and featuring automatic stick config loading, per selected plane.

So far I’ve only been flying helos with the Rhino, but I’ve decided to finally learn the Viggen now, so in the process of setting it up for a fixed wing.
And, while the FFB was good on the Huey, that stick shaker in the Viggen will rattle your teeth!
When it goes of it certainly leaves no doubt, that it would be advisable to ease up on the stick, like right now!
There seems to be something fishy with the FFB trim though, but I think it’s a Viggen issue. The other fixed wings I’ve tried works as expected. But it’s usable as is, just have to invert the FFB pitch axis in sim.
Otherwise it’s just nice to have to actually pull pretty hard, when putting some G on the aircraft, gives a good feel for the plane.
Oh, and I’ve had the cooling fan of the Rhino come on for the first time! It’s loud!
Apparently the FFB motors works a lot more in a fighter pulling G, than in a Helo just plodding along :laughing:
Walmis said something about implementing fan curves in the next iteration of the configurator, so maybe the fan can be tamed a bit going forward.
Right, that’s about it, still very happy about my purchase. I even sold my Virpil CM2 base, as it was just collecting dust.

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Hi all, I bought the kit and now have a DIY Rhino. Works as advertised, using a Warthog grip. That sucker is heavy, more than 1kg, so I might buy a Virpil Constellation and a curved extender to bring the grip closer, my seat is from a VW Tiguan, comfy but nil cutout.

The answer to my initial question is YES, I can use Joystick gremlin, the Rhino appears as its own standalone joystick with all necessary buttons and ability to use shift registers.

A great pice of kit, many thanks to Walmis (creator) and Protomaker (designed and released a DIY guide and stl’s)

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