Zen3 or not zen3, that is the question

Heads up for the Germans around here: Mindfactory has Zen 3 in stock and I immediately pulled the trigger:

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Well I am happy for your future sim flying but sorry for your wallet! :rofl:

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Yeah, hard to believe how expensive RAM is right now. I got lucky when I build my current system and found 32GB 2800 CL15 Ripjaws for 50€ at the local hardware chain.

No luck on graphics cards though. I have setup notifications for 3080ies and 3090ies but every time they become available they’re sold out in seconds

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RAM isn’t too bad here but for that same kit I am seeing the equivalent of 365.79 euro (converting from CAD).

Does that include taxes?

Negative, but our local sales tax is 13%. (practice over here is that prices don’t include taxes)

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Ah okay, so basically the same price. The 409€ includes 19% sales tax :slight_smile:

Can’t wait to get it up and running:

Edit:
Looking good. Got almost everything set up just need to reload all my control profiles. DCS is much, much smoother than on the old system. The Ryzen clocks to almost 5GHz, everything standard, only running the xmp profile.


Edit2: Forgot to say, I have never seen Windows install that quickly. Probably less then 10min from plugging in the boot drive to desktop

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I finally succumbed to the Zen 3 hype train, albeit in a budget way, and ordered a Ryzen 5 5600X with Asus TUF Gaming X570 WiFi mobo. I chose the 5600X based on Tom’s Hardware CPU 1440p gaming benchmark being 98.03% of the fastest CPU tested and the $300 price. This compares favorably with my current Intel Core i7-8700K rating of 62.52% 1440p gaming benchmark. I’m on a couple of waiting lists for an RTX 3080, but anticipating that we’ll probably see 4080s before they are available. The RTX 2080ti lives on and continues to slowly build its ROI :smiley:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a CPU cooler? I’m more about quiet operation than bells and whistles. -Ta

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Noctua is still king, bequiet is good, scythe is good value.

The bigger the better/quieter. Air is often quieter than water.

Sry 4 brevity, small phone little time :wink:

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I second @Poneybirds recommendation for Noctua. My 5900x does not exceed 75°C during benchmarks, rarely goes above 60°C in games. Running a Noctua NH-U12S

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Thanks for the recommendations guys. I’ll admit that I have had good results with single fan liquid cooling the last 3 CPUs, in particular with Cooler Master. So it would take a leap of faith to go back to air cooled. I do like keeping things simple, so there’s that. Looking at the Noctua.

I guess it also depends on your case. A 5600 is not pushing it to the extreme, so you can’t go wrong either way as long as you leverage your cases features well. Got to get that heat out of the case. Cooler master is a good brand but one of their recent air cooling products got bad reviews. Can’t remember which one.

If you got too much time, Gamers Nexus can educate you to the degree of a Professor Doctor :slight_smile:

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I will say, that I haven’t tweaked the fan speed since the upgrade. The fans do ramp up under load but with only 75°C under maximum load I have a lot of headroom left. I had the same cooler for my 6700k @4.5GHz and it was barely audible under load although it ran a little hotter.

I’ll have to see how it is going to be during the summer months though.

Edit: This is just the quick CPU-Z Benchmark:

not even reaching 60°C

Cinebench r23 was 1650ish single thread, >21k Multithread, maxing out at 67°C during a 10min run

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Based in the your’s and other great reviews, I went with Noctua. Really appreciate the recommendation.

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I really like their stuff. I have been using Noctua coolers since my first own build with an i7 920 D0 running at 4GHz! Loved that CPU. It was incredibly easy to overclock with massive performance increase vs 2.67GHz stock clocks.

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I’d give credit to Noctua to cool one of those, my dad’s PC had one - for everyday office work - and it was thermally awful (compared to today’s stuff) at those low loads. I’d hate to imagine a loaded and overclocked 920’s thermals.

(It was about 40W CPU package power @ idle, once replaced with a I5-9400 with about 5W idle, you could actually feel the air conditioning in the summer in his office.)

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IIRC it was high 70ies to mid 80ies (°C) under load and 35-45°C on the desktop. The way I tested stability at the time was to simply run prime95 over night. Talking about overkill :joy:
I remember trying 4.2GHz (210MHz BCLK, multiplier was fixed for the 920!) but that gave me BSODs after 15-20min of running prime95, and even after a lot of tweaking I didn’t manage to get it stable. During a particularly hot summer I also had it at 3.8GHz for a while. It sure was a very capable heater, enough to heat the room during the winter months when I was playing games but so much bang for the buck! Going to the 6700k was a big step up though and the whole system was also much quieter.

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I ordered a second fan for push-pull. The reviews in that config are showing high 70’s with prime95 running and fan speed at 100%. Will test and if not satisfied, will return or use in another low intensity build.

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