Right now it’s a marketing crutch. But at least the technology is creeping its way into real time application. You’re absolutely right in that it will be a few years until it is fully worked out.
Right, and even then it needs to be integrated into the pipe line and offer sufficient advantages and be widespread enough for it to change the process in which engines and models are build. So I highly highly doubt that will happen anytime soon.
From what I hear it’s a game changer in Metro: Exodus due out next year. It will seriously bring down performance, but it will look amazing.
It won’t work for every game, of course, with the current level of power. I wonder how it would look in a racing sim.
Sooo…
I read a review article about the 2070 today and it sounds pretty nice.
Of course not quite up there with the 2080 or 2080ti, and it seems a well configured 1080ti also beats it in raw speed, but it is a bit faster than the 1080 it seems, and at roughly the same price (a few bucks more, but quite a bit cheaper than a 1080ti or a 2080 it seems)
Unfortunately I just cannot spare the money for anything that has “ti” behind its number, or at least not if I want to also get a VR device, which I do want to.
But based on that review I think I really might get a 2070 in my next PC.
Judging by the fact that some people (including a few of y’all here) use the 1080 for VR I guess it will be fast enough, at least if I turn down the graphics in games a fair bit.
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Fun fact: the ti acronym comes from the ancient greek trashiest incomest which in modern day translation means ‘discretionary income to burn’… 
A 2070 should be good with VR, at least enough to push the the bottleneck towards the CPU on most of the sims we play today.
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Yeah, it’s pretty obvious and no performance monitor needed when you try a bunch of different graphic settings, including the shaders mod, without much change in fps that my GPU is not the bottleneck.
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My view is a new 20series card will only perform well with a super fast CPU. My old i5 did not have the grunt to power my 1080gtx and I only got the benefit when I upgraded to a 8600 @5 GHz. We may need a Super computer to get the best out of the new cards
Even then, the 20xx series seems slightly incremental and not really all there just yet. I wonder if the RT tech will take off to make it worth it in the long run.
All the reviews I have looked at all seem to suggest the same. This series will be a miss for me and I will most likely pick up a 1080ti when I can get my hands on one.
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Yeah I think if I had any card of the 10xx series I’d give them a pass, too.
But my old PC has a 770 and my notebook that I play on right now has a 970m so I guess it is safe to say that any 20xx will be a good choice for my next PC. Probably not going to wait another year.
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Ahh true.
I’m hoping that it was a particular bad run of NVRAM that affected a group of owners. Very hard to make a judgement based on that sample, but at least Nvidia is making good on RMAs.
The hardest that I’ve pushed mine is 3 hours of DCS in VR, but no problems. The card does get hot to touch, but the fans don’t reach their max RPM like they would with the 1080 in VR.
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Seen any 2080 TI with liquid cooling, yet?
I have flashback to the 8800/9800GT’s!
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I didn’t. I was a 1080 owner, which I bequeathed to my brother so that we can fly Hornets together. I’m not saying that there aren’t problems with the RTX series. My point is that mine so far has been fine and I have full confidence that Nvidia will replace it should the card have an issue, just like they did with my tablet almost 2 years into ownership. I purchased direct, so I have their number.
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But still just ”built to order” by a third company.
No liquid cooled cards from the big companies.
I’ll wait until ASUS comes up with a liquid cooled offering.
I have faith in Nvidia and that they will fix this.
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I know. I never said it was 
But liquid cooled 2080 TI’s are what I’m waiting for.
I have stopped trying to make predictions… I once said the F/A-18 Interceptor, on the Commodore Amiga, was as good as flightsims ever would be…
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Haha and then Falcon 3.0 came… Still the best today. 
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Ray tracing has been the goal for decades now, but it’s always been out of reach.
Even these cards are compromised, the ray tracing they will do is a hybrid with rasterized, not a full scene RT.
The fact that it will soon be available in hybrid form for some games (but still not yet) leads me to think that maybe in 2030 we’ll have some form of it in flight sims.
However, I think it safe to say that the 20x0 series will likely not have the strength to run them. Maybe the next generation, MAYBE, but more likely it will be later.
FYI, I’ve pushed the Nvidia FE 2080 ti pretty hard and it has been perfect. My Falcon NW Fragbox isn’t exactly the world’s coolest case, and my GPU temps have been ranging on the low side 35C using Office365 while watching YouTude TV, to high of 84C during 3 hours of DCS in VR. I’ve not had any issues whatsoever. No lockups or artifacts. Maybe because mine was not in the initial release, but followed 3 weeks later. Who knows. Running like a champ so far.
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