Official 8th Annual Mudspike Christmas Flight 2022 Discussion and AAR Thread

The distance to Charlotte from Teterboro is some 470 nm so my plan was to split this distance into two roughly equal legs without much deviation from a direct route. A quick messing with LittleNavMap revealed that Lake Anna airport (7W4) would fit the bill nicely. The airport is nearby… well… Lake Anna so it should not be too difficult to find it.

It also seemed a good opportunity to finally take to the air the 40th anniversary Beaver so there I was:

The weather in Teterboro was far from perfect but definitely good for VFR, let alone for VOR-VOR navigation.

Leaving Teterboro…

…and New York behind.

Some shots enroute with weather varying from good to not-so-good and sometimes to why-is-everything-grey outside?

Philadelphia. The way its skyline popped out from the low hanging clouds surprised me. It was one of these WOW moments, you know…

Shortly after and right when I thought that the flight was going really smooth the engine quit.

No Way Wow GIF

First thought: change the fuel tank.

Did not help.

Secont thought: Ther’s the New Castle (KILG) airport in my gliding distance so let’s go there to have a coffee.

Third thought (after scanning the cockpit for apparent issues): Let’s crank the engine again.

And voila! The engine was back online and the thing in front was pulling me again through the air.

Zafar GIF by Filonews

Some more enroute shots:

Here they must be selling the best groceries in the region :slight_smile:

I fly with Bijan’s Seasons. It seems that this place must be a meeting point of two different biome regions.

Lake Anna. So I am not too far away. Pitty I did not check the map more in detail… as always :grimacing:

Snap! I forgotten to take the cargo!

Fortunately, I saw this to the south of the lake:

Checking the wind…

On final.

Here I have to make a remark. Of course I did not read the manual (not that there is one provided for the Beaver by MilViz / Asobo anyway) and much less the speeds for this aircraft. But just by reading the ASI and eyeballing what looks right, I opted for 90 mph. It worked well :+1: After landing I googled for some info and found this:

speeds

HA!

Down and aircraft secured.

The next leg is the last leg :slight_smile:

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Beauty! Wonder what made your engine quit?

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Empty central fuel tank.

I would think that switching to a fuel tank with fuel would get the engine running as the prop was still windmilling but that was not the case. No idea why. It should work like that IRL I believe.

But what a boring flight would that be without an emergency :rofl:

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I just looked through the manual for the Beaver I have (Thranda XP11) - The starter switch engages the starter and boost coil. A total WAG, but maybe that answers the question?

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Yeah, perhaps that is a part of the solution :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Anyway, you made me google today at 7am :sweat_smile: to check the Emergency Procedure for engine failure during flight. I got this (this is RL POH so it may not be simulated in MSFS but I find it intetesting nonetheless):


I recall having zero oil and zero fuel pressure. Of course I did not use the wobble pump and instead in sheer horror pressed Ctrl+E to crank the engine :grimacing: The automated start up sequence did the trick.

Note that the emergency checklist above DOES NOT include holding the starter switch in START position.

A good reminder to know your emergency procedures :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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I should have kept reading the manual:

beaver

You do realise that I am now going to have to check this… stand by :slight_smile:

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Interestingly I recall from some of my older aircraft procedures turning boost pumps on for switching fuel sources.

Last year I starved the engines in the DC-6 when I tried to rapidly balance a tank by feeding all engines off of it without remembering to put the Boost Pumps in high, so it seems possible to do that.

I wouldn’t think this Beaver would have that kind of systems depth, but good on them if it did.

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I plan to take the Beaver to the skies of Alaska and discover a bit the Misty Moornings scenery package so I suppose I will face multiple opportunities to check out :flushed:

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I tried an in flight engine failure with the Thranda Beaver I have for XP-11.

Turned off the fuel and the engine stopped within about 10 seconds. And by stopped I mean completely, as in not turning/windmilling at all.

But I followed the procedure - it only took two pumps with the wobble pump to get the fuel pressure back into the green, there was still a bit of oil pressure so I tried adjusting the prop to see if I could get it spinning… Nup. So I said fuggit, hit the starter and the engine came to life!

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How fast were you going? Wonder how little airspeed keeps that engine turning.

Also, does the Beaver have autofeather?

Started with the recommended airspeed (95mph/83 knots). Put the nose down a bit further and bumped that up to nearly 100 knots, but nothing.

No autofeather, and the lever didn’t appear to be adjusting the prop pitch… I’m guessing that this particular version isn’t that ‘sophisticated’?

Edit/Update: I did a quick ‘experiment’ with a number of ‘prop’ planes - turbine and piston. For aircraft that have an autofeather prop pitch is animated, but only between full fine and feathered. i.e. start an engine with the prop feathered and it will ‘transition’ to full fine on start up regardless of the prop lever position. With all other aircraft the props seem to be ‘fixed’ at full fine/max rpm regardless of lever position. This is obviously an animation thing only, it is modelling RPM based on lever setting.

I might try some other aircraft to see if their props will windmill - that will let me know if it is XP11 or aircraft (i.e. developer) specific.

Edit/Update 2: Windmilling props is aircraft specific (asterix denotes autofeather):

(STMA) Beech 18* - No (might be due to autofeather, will re-check)

(Aerobask) Velocity Twin - No

(AWX) DC3* - Yes, but autofeather and will only windmill when getting near VNE in a dive (awesome freeware BTW, definitely one to DL if you have XP11)

(Laminar Research) King Air* - Yes

(Laminar Research C-172 - No

(Thranda) DH2C Beaver - No

(Virtavia) F7F Tigercat - Yes

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For the last leg from the Lake Anna airport (7W4) to Charlotte (KCLT) I picked the Electra since, for some reason, it gives me great 30’ vibes and that was exactly what I felt like :slight_smile:

Early morning departure calls for cold & DARK cockpit, of course.

Ready to go and bye bye Lake Anna! The final destination is waiting for me.

I have to admit I did not want any emergency this time. Just chill…

To be honest, I had to perform mid-air refueling close to Charlotte because the Electra refused to sip fuel from the aux fuel tank no matter what.

Time to get down… into the murky skies over Charlotte.

With no special plan for landing (even though I have fired up the FSLTL to have some traffic around, I have forgotten to activate it :man_facepalming:) I just pulled up the ATC menu and got rwy 18L for visual landing.

Which is exactly what I did few moments later.

Now I am going to pick some of these cars for the last mile!

That’s all folks :slight_smile:

Season 6 Champagne GIF by Ex On The Beach

What a trip :slight_smile:

If you read this, @BeachAV8R, I made it all the way from my home to your home (kinda), went through some hiccups, learnt ton of new stuff (like paying attention to weather and fuel planning) and had lots of fun! :slight_smile:

Thanks a million @Deacon211 for taking care of this Christmas flight.

And now, is anybody still around to go have one?

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hang on, on my way! :smile: and congrats!

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Perfect timing. I’m finally over my hangover!

Nicely done!

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I haven’t flown since Christmas so I guess I am still in Charlotte as well! Congrats!

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Nice. Congrats and well done. :partying_face:

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still some beer left? :slight_smile: somewhere in South America

after the latest update XP12 is again back on track with performance and smoothness for me. on par with XP11. no micro-freezes anymore. nice.

even over congested areas its nice and smooth

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We’re down to our last case. Hurry! :wink:

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I might find a case or two in the cargo hold of the C-17 :smiley:

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A gif re-post from one of the previous Christmas flights says it all :smile:

Drunk Head First GIF by Barstool Sports

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