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You can certainly have an opinion on whether Chester Bennington was a good musician or not. And you can certainly have an opinion on how he left this world. What you can’t do is erase how much charity work and causes that he, as part of Linkin Park has participated in.

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Please, enlighten me …

Nah. I’d rather not.

Oh man. It’s a contrarian’s buffet.

Do I pick the low hanging fruit and needle canuckistan by calling the Hip mediocre?

Do I punch the bear trap and take a swing and nu-metal?

Nah, I’ll just leave this.

Never been much of a fan of Linkin Park. I like some of their songs though, and what I found interesting about them is their “broad” sound. They sound “loud”, even when listened to rather quietly.
And I have to say Benningtons singing voice astonished me. That guy was screaming, no clue how he managed to do this all the time without losing his voice.

That being said: Leaving his family behind is something that will not get any positive words from me, even though he probably thought it was a good idea.

(no video because my favourite song, “In the End” was already posted )

Maybe it’s a generational thing, and it’s my age. Maybe it’s a military thing for the peer group I came up with. Hybrid Theory started getting radio airplay at the end of the summer of 2001. Meteora dropped in the spring of 2003. Linkin Park SAS the soundtrack of our deployments, of learning we were going off to war, and especially for my generation, of us finding ourselves in our young and formative years.

The band knows their popularity within the community of those of us who came up in that time, and they’ve been huge supporters of the military, military families, and veterans.

http://taskandpurpose.com/linkin-park-chester-bennington-suicide/

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The In The End Video was done by the same set designer was the same guy that did StarGate SG1

I never understood the hate vs Linkin Park.
Limp Bizkit is another matter but still.

Today my Facebook feed is full of people that apparently couldn’t wait to extern their hate towards them.
As if these a$$hol£s were important or something.

If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all.

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Sorry for going off on a tangent here, but i find it a bit self-righteous to argue that someone with a substance addiction and most likely clinical depression is being selfish when he commits suicide. Without dragging this thread any further into the mud, if you’re not a victim of clinical depression, you’d be hard pressed to comprehend the misery that that illness can put someone through.

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People have been through ■■■■ before and will go through ■■■■ in the future. I know such people. Both those who did escape that way and who didnt.
They are not necessarily selfish. But they stop caring. And they do stop caring long before they kill themselves. Leaving others to mop up after them.
So no I will not stop judging them.
In his case it may be not too severe because his family is probably quite rich. That helps. There are still six kids now who have lost their dad because he decided it.

People believed Linkin Park Sold out to Pop…

Because after the 2nd Album, it was Remix, Mash Up, and Less Guitars/Screaming and more Melody/Harmony Singing.

The Issue is, Chester has Several Vocal Hernia Surgeries over the years…his screaming like crazy days were over.

Their Newer sound for the last 4 or so Studio Albums, attracted more sales than the angry kid screaming did. (regardless of what the angry fans say),

They’ve had 6 #1 Albums on Billboard …

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Wow, the self entitlement of some people…

Thank you @SkateZilla for the clarification-

…and considering that a millionaire probably has enough money to get the best help that exists on the planet that makes it even worse.
An average citizen cannot even afford to get that help in most countries.
So I actually have more sympathy for poor people doing that than for him, now that I think about it.

I actually liked the screaming better but I still think the quality improved when they went softer a bit.
I can’t understand the strong feelings toward music in general very well.
So someone likes Pavarotti and someone likes Manowar. No reason to hate anyone either way.

its not really about money as it is strength to admit you have a problem and seek out the help.

Lead a horse to water, but cant make him drink.

Case in Point, My brother (who was also a lead singer in a band for at least 10 years), went on a downward spiral after my father died a few years back.

He started doing some OTC Drugs and Drinking alot, about a month and a half ago he tried to commit suicide, and failed, and was put in a rehab facility and placed on suicide watch for 14 days (no phone, no nothing).

We had already been keeping an eye on him, but he felt he couldn’t come to family or even his band mates to talk about stuff.

So now he is in therapy, seeking counseling, and a bunch of other stuff.

Point is, whatever he was dealing with in his head, he felt he couldnt even seek help from his own family.

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Agreed, and I’ll add that the two are not mutually exclusive.
I listen carelessly to Marilyn Manson, Beethoven, Pikotaro, WHAM! and whatever the hell I want.
And I’m very careful to explain my kids that personal taste in art is not for debate; rather can be food for a respectful discussion and sharing.

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Yeah I know it is hard. I also had a case like that in the family. Maybe two, we don’t exactly know about the other since the only person we could ask is dead.
I strongly believe that every person can be strong enough to tackle such problems. Some need help and some need more help.
Most of those people know there is something wrong while they can still make decisions.
Being a father should help you to make the decision to get help, if you care for your children.

Of course I don’t know about everyone on the planet. But I am VERY hesitant to accept “I couldn’t” as an answer.

His 6 Children plus the 3 Children he was godfather too.

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I was going through the worst stretch of my life when In The End came out. Within a few months of each other my marriage dissolved and my Mother died in an automobile accident.

Man that song.

I don’t have the energy or the inclination to hate on someone for the choices they make.
I am sad to find out someone whose talent affected me so strongly is gone.

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I know this from personal experience. This suicide has unlikely been something that happened in the moment. Calling him selfish is, rather missing how these people get to the point where suicide is an acceptable solution.

I could write quite a bit about it but I doubt this is a good place for it. And I can also understand why people do not see it that way.

@BeachAV8R I think you’ve been talking about that concert for a while already, when I heard the news in the car yesterday I thought “did Beach seem them already?”.

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