A good summary of the ray tracing now the game is released:
Guess I should finally go play Far Cry 2 and start catching upā¦
Skip 2 and go to 3. Much better IMHO
This looks very impressive. I might have to pick it up.
Question to the people with RTX cards:
I see a lot of people saying that the 2070 and 2080 āshouldā be worse than 1070 and 1080 in DCSW because they have less VRAM, and "DCS needs 10+ GB of VRAM.
I personally think that if the VRAM, bus, and cores are fast enough you should get away with having less VRAM because you will need less VRAM.
Any opinions/measurements on that?
Never owned a 1080 as I was amd before. However 2080 seems to run the game well (on an older cpu which may be bottle necking) with all sliders maxed, water high civ traffic on max view and draw distance and 50-75fps depending where you look. 1080p though, need to upgrade to a 2 k monitor and see how that goes
2070 replaces the 1070 - has the same VRAM but is a lot faster with traditional rendering.
2080 replaces the 1080 - has the same VRAM but is a lot faster with traditional rendering.
2080ti replaces the 1080ti - has the same VRAM but is a lot faster with traditional rendering.
Philosophical corner : is it worth to invest hundreds of money to get the extra eyecandy !?
I mean the DCS engine is quite ( constantly ) optimized atm imo.
My last online mision in UH1 in persian desert was at 50-60fps on 4k on medium-low setings ( terain textures high ).
I gues it is individualā¦ or the cockpits I fly are not that fps hungryā¦
In some cases, Iād say yes. X-Plane is pretty VRAM intensive, so all the more the better. If I could spend a few hundred dollars extra a year to run even more bells and whistles I will. If I were playing Far Cry or other first person shooters primarily, I donāt know that it would make a difference boosting from 90 to 130 or 140 to 180 fpsā¦I mean, Iām not sure it would really be noticeable. But in flight sims, I think it helps because we are usually down around the bottom of those numbers, sometimes into the 30s and 40s. DCS seems to be pretty well optimized now and I wouldnāt lump it in with X-Plane and P3D, which are still pretty needy on CPU and GPU.
In addition to what @BeachAV8R has said. My point of view goes something like this.
I didnāt want an RTX card for all the obvious reasons. My main SIM is dcs, and I couldnāt run water on high and had some options reduced. To be fair, I had fairly high settings and my old card was coping fine. But with the upgrade to the caucuses map, the fps hit was meaning I would have to start turning down the eye candy to get playable frame rates.
My intent was an interim card to get me through a year or so until the current rtx line had aged and competition was more prevalent. 1080ti prices went through the roof and I spent months scouring prices and various cards.
I was lucky to find a 2080 for less than a 1080ti and far less than what this version of 2080 goes for retail and that is why I bought it. Its performance is good and I am happy to have the sliders back up on max.
Would I buy this card at the price itās currently going for at retail, no. Its a good card but the prices are on the silly side for me. I was lucky and the price for me is acceptable for what I got.
Why only acceptable and not good or great? Because I most likely wonāt use Ray tracing before the next upgrade anyway and dlss is honestly a good year or two away from optimisation and implementation in games.
So itās an acceptable price. I think of rtx like owning the old James bond car that turned into a submarine, but I live in a dessert. Itās a great feature, but there is nowhere to use it and quite honestly, you shouldnāt be paying extra for it.
I finally decided to look at the card that came with the game machine computer I purchased last year. I bought the rig for work (esci Flightsim Publications) because I was looking at expanding my simNovels into P3Dā¦so I just bought a ācheapā system with enough general specs-CPU speeds, RAM and graphics card memoryāI figured would run it. With the rise of XP11, the P3D expansion was deemed unprofitable, so Iām looking at DCS and XP11
It has a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 w/ 6G It seems to run DCS just fine at pretty good graphics levels.
Iām still fooling with XP11. From this thread I read:
The graphics that XP11 defaults decided on were pretty much near the middle of the sliders, and Iām not happy with the results. Wondering if I should spend time carefully adjusting slides (like I did with FSX more times than I can count), or just upgrade to something mentioned here - specifically the 20XX line.
I assume it runs fine at 1080p? Oh, I have a EVGA 1080 Ti for sale if anyoneās interested
Let the battle of GPUās begin! Iāll report back here with some DCS benchmark comparisons of the 1080 Ti vs 2080 Ti.
So I got the 2080 Ti installed and did some testing. Before removing the 1080 Ti I ran several benchmark missions in DCS that I setup and recorded the results in MSI Afterburner. Iām seeing a 20-30% performance increase with the 2080 Ti in DCS. This is consistent with benchmark results in other games that Iāve seen so Iām pretty happy with that.
For the high cost of the 2080 TI I wish the performance increase was more but it is what it is. I had to sell the 1080 Ti plus a few other things I had lying around to pay for it. If you currently have a 1080 Ti and want a performance increase it might be worth it. I sold my 1080 Ti on ebay in a matter of hours after listing it for $670. I actually thought it wouldnāt sell very quickly at that price as I was hoping to sell to someone on craigslist or the forums.
Iāll try to followup tomorrow with some of the perf graphs from Afterburner, my system specs and DCS config for more detail.
Could you quantify this in some more detail? I have 1060 and I am afraid that the 2060 is not that much of an upgrade, but could be wrong. No VR here.
I am just curious as the prices for the cards here didnāt change in a year.
There have to be some price drop to have me in the market
Iām in the market for a new card, the 970 just isnāt cutting it anymore. Iām really leaning to a 2060.
Exactly the same, in DCS Iām thinking that the cut down VRAM is starting to become a problem (only 3.5Gb of its 4 Gb VRAM actually have the full memory bandwidth).
The power consumption of the newer cards is ridiculous though. Even the 2060 super has a TDP of 175 W. I really donāt want to move up from the 145 W of the 970 much, so Iām still waiting for some new model to hit the right spot.
DCS will happily eat up the entire 8Gb of VRAM on my 1070ti. If they hadnāt been so stupidly priced at the time, I wouldāve bought an 11Gb 1080ti.
Funny thing is, i thought about getting a 1070, but they cost more than a 2060 super at the moment. Thereās clearly not enough competition in the GPU market right now.
I went with a Nvidia RTX 2080 with 8GB GDDR6.
DCS runs very well with the visuals turned up a bitā¦when you do that, the āgrassā looks like a bunch of green, curved knife bladesā¦its a wonder I havenāt sliced a tire (tyre for @Victork2) on my Mi-8.
XP is a bit of a mixed bag. For some reason when you get into the cloudsāan overcastāFPS drops to 20ā¦which I donāt quite understand since all it is āshowingā is a monotone white. Iāve also noticed serious stutters in at least one aircraft, ORBX UK scenery, with the detail set so you can seen most of the autopen housesā¦not a real issue if you are flying over default scenery and are up at altitude.